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Dr. Bill Courtney Past Researcher, The Genome Institute at Washington University
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The Disappearing Y Chromosome: Are our (genetic) male bits disappearing?
Human Y chromosome
• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
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Audience Question “Do you think the human Y chromosome will eventually disappear?” • Yes • No • Undecided • Yes, Good riddance
• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
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Why do we need men? • Women – Do “all” the work from conception to delivery – Usually are responsible for weaning and early upbringing
• Women rarely – Participate in violent crime – Become tyrants – Start wars
• In animal breeding female: male ratios can be 100:1 – There is a distinct advantage to manipulate the sex ratio
• Wouldn’t the world be a better place without men? – If we could solve the reproduction issue
• Is there a genetic or evolutionary reason why we need all this “excess baggage?”
Why do we have sexual reproduction? • Short term losses – – – –
Costly Time consuming Expends energy But has many long term gains
• Reshuffles our genetic composition – Brings together advantageous genes – Increases likelihood of survival – Ability to cope with changing environment
• Accelerates evolution – Creates unique individuals – With a wider pool of ancestors
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But why do we have sexes? • Resource Allocation – More time and resources spent in producing one type of gamete instead of two – One small, mobile and numerous (sperm) – One large, nutrient-rich and rare (egg)
• Encourages outbreeding, avoids inbreeding – Which can only be healthy
• A 50:50 sex ratio avoids all sorts of issues
• •
– Mate competition – When the sex ratio gets skewed, it tends to “correct” itself So males are here to stay (in natural populations at least) But, ironically being male, tends to shrink our (genetic) “male bits” over evolutionary time
• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
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This is what our genome looks like
All our DNA comes in pairs One from mum, one from dad.
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All our DNA comes in pairs One from mum, one from dad
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How does this make us all different? • Either the left or the right hand of each pair (but not normally both) could find its way into the sperm or egg • Genetic exchange of DNA following crossing-over of chromosomes • “Random mating” • This is how we “do” evolution
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But what is the difference between boys and girls?
Spot the odd couple
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Spot the odd couple
The mere presence of a Y chromosome is the “mark of maleness”
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BUT The X chromosome is big (but not too big), functional, and gene-rich.
The Y chromosome is tiny, full of junk DNA and gene-poor.
Wimpy Y
Sexy X
Ohno (Oh no!)’s hypothesis: Males used to look like this:
But their (genetic) male bits shrunk over time
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Will the Y eventually disappear?
Y
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• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
Degrees of Y Degradation turtles alligators
frogs many fish some deer
most mammals Inc. humans
kangaroos
spiny rats mole voles
X
Y
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How did the Y come to shrink in the first place? Identical sex chromosomes exchange genetic material Sex determining region
Suppression of genetic exchange around the sex determining region
Sex determining region
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Mutations
Mutations Sex determining region
Mutations
Mutations
Absence of “mutual support mechanism” causes mutations on both chromosomes They start to differentiate
Sex determining region
One of the chromosomes (in mammals it’s the “Y”) starts to lose genetic material
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Sex determining region
One of the chromosomes (in mammals it’s the “Y”) starts to lose genetic material
Sex determining region
One of the chromosomes (in mammals it’s the “Y”) starts to lose genetic material
X
Y
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Sex determining region
One of the chromosomes (in mammals it’s the “Y”) starts to accumulate “Junk DNA”
Further reduction in genetic exchange
X
Y
Mutations
Mutations
Sex determining region
Mutations
Mutations
X
Y
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It’s a vicious circle!
Sex determining region • • •
More structural differentiation of chromosomes
X
More loss of DNA More accumulation of “junk” More reduction of genetic exchange
Y
Sex determining region
• • •
More loss of DNA More accumulation of “junk” More reduction of genetic exchange
More differentiation
X
Y
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Sex determining region
• • •
More loss of DNA More accumulation of “junk” More reduction of genetic exchange
More differentiation
X
Y
Sex determining region
• • •
More loss of DNA More accumulation of “junk” More reduction of genetic exchange
More differentiation
X
Y
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Sex determining region
X
Y
Remaining region of genetic exchange
Sex determining region
Great pile of junk
Regions of similarity
X
Y
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• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
What is the argument all about? • There is a “debate” in the genome evolution community about whether the mammalian (including the human) Y chromosome will eventually disappear (and when) – Some would call it an argument
• The press like to extrapolate that to ask “will males eventually disappear” – Sorry, but the answer to that one is almost certainly “no” – No-one in the scientific community is seriously suggesting that males will disappear
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Debate • 18th International Chromosome Conference, • Manchester August 31st 2011 • Jenny Marshall-Graves – LaTrobe University, Melbourne, Australia
• Jennifer Hughes – Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
The Basis of the Argument • Clearly the Y is a “degraded X” but
• Has it – Reached the point of equilibrium such that it can go no further? or – Got to the cliff edge, clinging on by its fingernails, about to fall at any moment?
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Linear Model? # genes left (MY)
1600
45 0
-166
Time (MY)
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“Y Forever” Model
# genes left (MY)
1600
Y forever!!!!? 0
-166
Time (MY)
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Sudden Collapse Model
# genes left (MY)
1600
0
-166
Time (MY)
0
Extinction next week
“Skin of Teeth” Model
# genes left (MY)
1600
0
-166
Time (MY)
0
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• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
The Jenny Graves case: the Y is disappearing
Wimpy Y Sexy X
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Genes on the Y Chromosome
Genes that survive on the Y Most Y genes have similar versions on the X 18 identical genes
SOX3 Mental retardation
SRY(sex determining region Y) Sex determination
RBMY
Similar genes
Sperm development
RBMX
TSPY
Mental retardation
Y
Sperm development
TSPX
Many functions
X
Brains genes (1700 in total)
Testis functions Balls genes (27 in total)
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When did it all happen? Reptiles and birds
Temperature Some sex chromosomes (ZW)
Platypus
Marsupials Humans
XYXYXYXYXY
Amphibians
XY
XY
SRY
148 166 Mammals
Fish 310
410
Million years ago
450
When will the human Y disappear?
166 Million years ago – the Y had ~1669 genes Today – the Y has 45 genes Genes lost per Million years = About 10 At this rate Y will disappear in 4.6 Million years
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Linear Model? # genes left (MY)
1600
45 0
-166
Time (MY)
0
Extinction in 4.6mY
Has it happened already?
Mole voles - males have no Y, no SRY E. fuscocapillus - XY males, XX females E. lutescens - XO males, XO females E. tancrei - XX males, XX females
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Has it happened already? Japanese spiny rats have survived loss of Y no SRY
female male X X Amami-Osima Island Amami spiny rat (T. osimensis) Tokunoshima Island
Tokunoshima spiny rat (T. tokunoshimensis)
no SRY Okinawa-jima Island
female male X X
SRY Okinawa spiny rat (T. muenninki )
female XX
male XY
What could happen to Y genes? intact mutation inactivation amplification deletion move to another chromosome
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Y loss in spiny rat Could it happen in humans? X
KDM5C
Y
KDM5 EIF2S3Y TSPY ZFX SRY RBMY
SRY replaced by ??
EIF2S3X TSPX
Other Y genes relocated
ZFX RBMY-RT SOX3
KDM5
RBMX
EIF2S3Y TSPY ZFX
XX
What if
woman
spiny rat
man
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The human Y is disappearing because: • It is subject to higher rates of change than other chromosomes • There is evidence from across the animal kingdom that “Y”’s degrade irreversibly – Spiny rats and mole voles – Some say fruit flies are on their 3rd Y chromosomes
• There is evidence that there is practically nothing left of the original human Y – A few bits have since been added, and they are also degrading
• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
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The Jenn Hughes Case In defense of the Y
Jennifer Hughes Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research Cambridge, MA
A Tale of Three Primate Y’s ~25 mya
~6 mya
Rhesus macaque Chimpanzee
Human
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She studied the human Y chromosome in great detail
Genes on the Human Y
Gene type
Where does it act?
Origin
Single-copy
Brains
X-Y ancestor
Multi-copy
Balls
X-Y ancestor or transposition
Single-copy: Multi-copy:
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Genes and sequences on the human Y
Many Palindromes
Audience Question “Which of the following is a palindrome?”
• Naomi, did I moan? • As I pee, sir, I see Pisa • Kay, a red nude, peeped under a yak • All of the above • None of the above
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What is a palindrome? • • • • • • • • • •
Elle Eve Dumb mud Senile felines Mad as Adam A Santa at Nasa Strap on no parts Naomi, did I moan? As I pee, sir, I see Pisa Kay, a red nude, peeped under a yak
Genes and Sequences on the Human Y
Many Palindromes
Eve
Madam
Elle Strap on no parts
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How the Y saves itself • Palindromes undergo “self genetic exchange” – Essentially they cause the Y to “do it with itself”
Human-chimp-rhesus comparison ~25 mya
~6 mya
Rhesus macaque
Chimpanzee
Human
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The rhesus Y is incredibly simple
But when we look at the number of genes………
Surviving “ancestral” genes in human Y, chimp Y, and rhesus Y 25 mya
Z
6 mya
Z
14 genes 19 genes
20 genes chimp Y rhesus Y
human MSY
One gene lost from human Y in last 25 million years. In human lineage, Y gene loss essentially ceased > 25 mya. The same is true for rhesus lineage. Y gene loss in chimp lineage is an exception, not the rule.
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The human Y is not going to disappear because: • It hasn’t disappeared yet and it has been around for hundreds of millions of years. • The Y chromosome has shown it has ways to outsmart genetic decay in the absence of “normal” recombination. – Palindromes cause Y to “do it with itself”
• The human Y has added at least 8 different genes, many of which are in multiple copy. • The human Y has not lost any genes since human and rhesus monkey diverged 25 million years ago.
“Y Forever” Model
# genes left (MY)
1600
Y forever!!!!? 0
-166
Time (MY)
0
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• Why do we… – Need men? – Have sex? – Have sexes? • What does our genome look like? – What is the difference between boys and girls? – The human Y chromosome and shrinkage • How did the Y come to shrink? • What is the argument all about? • The Jenny Graves Case – The Y is disappearing • The Jenn Hughes Case – In defense of the Y • Rebuttals and Conclusions
Rebuttals •
In analysing primates – –
•
Harbingers of our future –
two rodents already lost both Y & TDF •
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• •
•
provide good examples of the Y chromosome “clinging on to life.”
once it’s gone, it’s gone, the process is irreversible
Palindromes and gene duplication by themselves will not save the Y without evolutionary selection –
Palindromes can preserve Y genes. – –
natural selection will swiftly remove Ys that contain mutated copies palindromes are evolving significantly slower
•
There has not been any decay of genes in at least 25 million years,
•
Each individual part of the X shows a “Y forever” model Most of genes that remain on human Y are probably indispensible
spiny rat and mole vole.
Some fruit fly species are on their third Y chromosome. Gene conversion is not directional –
•
tiny evolutionary interval need to consider the issue in a broader evolutionary context.
–
•
– – –
not a “tiny” fraction.
not just for determining maleness, for sperm development and other basic biological functions, Therefore to Y is here to stay!
Therefore the Y is on it’s way out
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Conclusion 1: Summary • No-one (apart from certain sections of the press) is suggesting that males are disappearing – Just because the male “bits” are disappearing, does not mean that males themselves are
• Everyone agrees that the “Y” is “degenerate X” – So it has shrunk considerably
• Everyone agrees that the “Y” has evolved some pretty clever mechanisms to “put the brakes on” • What we can’t agree on is how effective the brakes are
Conclusion 2: Do we need males? •
•
•
There are lots of studies of skews from 1:1 sex ratios – But they are relatively rare – The skew from 1:1 is usually quite small – By and large 1:1 ratios are here to stay in natural populations Clinically, attempts at female: female fertilization would be very dangerous – Natural conceptions with only female genomes do not survive – If we tried to get over the problem using science, this would almost certainly lead to clinically affected children Humans could, theoretically, just survive with a few males – As in some farm animal breeding regimes – But how would we choose the “lucky” guys? – Imagine the fights – Good luck in trying to get that through Parliament
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